ADMIN: LJ's TOS, and the comm's reaction

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

In the wake of the abrupt change in LJ's TOS last month and the concerns of many, the admins of stargateficrec have been discussing our options.

We have created a backup archive of the community on Dreamwidth, but for now, that's all it is. It's a safety measure to ensure that no matter what happens to LJ in the future, 13 years' worth of Stargate fandom won't be lost.

stargateficrec's community members can be divided into two separate types: those that are active in the comm (and we thank you, reccers!), and those that passively enjoy seeing fic recs pop up in their flists. Any future decisions need to serve both kinds. There are, perhaps, a dozen active members, and we aware that some of those active members have chosen to leave LJ and move exclusively to DW; but there are also over 1,800 people who have stargateficrec on their flists. We want to determine how we can best serve our community.

To that end, please take a minute to respond to the poll below. Knowing the reactions of as many comm readers as possible will give us a clearer idea of where to go from here.

[Poll #2067316]

Comments

[fenris_wolf0]

Why not crosspost on LJ and DW? It may need to be done manually at first, but this could be the ultimate compromise, though there is a feed of the LJ comm on DW, so it's not necessary if you'd rather avoid the move to DW.

Note that personally I don't care about the TOS changes per se, I care about the way we were trapped into accepting the new TOS simply to be able to login (even if it was just to copy/download/move our journals) with no warning whatsoever.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Oh, yeah, the without-warning thing is pretty alarming. I'm with you there.

Crossposting to a comm is actually a bit of a nightmare, I'm afraid. I speak from experience. :) It would all have to be done manually, and by the reccers themselves. I have an archive of my own recs; I crosspost simulatneously to the LJ and DW versions, then go back manually to repost it to stargateficrec itself.

[hooloovoo_42]

My very personal view is that I'm not that bothered by the change in TOS, but I understand that others are. Facebook and Google have TOS which are far more sweeping and likely to change, yet nobody really cares about giving up all their personal data and being bombarded with adverts and tracked around the web.

FB have locked me out of my account after 10 years with no way of getting my personal data back without giving them information I won't provide. Nor is there any way I can find of communicating with them about the matter, even in English. All because of the TOS that they don't apply to a huge number of accounts.

I'd like the comm to stay on LJ, but will still read if it goes to DW. However, it's the reccers who provide the material, so I can't read what isn't recced.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Thanks for a very clear view from the reader's perspective! And you're right, there are lots of nasty TOS out there.

[popkin16]

I do think crossposting to both is the best option, but I don't think you can do it automatically for communities like you can for personal journals...so perhaps just backup the comm every week or so, or something?

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

::nods:: Crossposting can't be done automatically with comms, sadly. Regular backups are definitely a good option, though.

[rissabby.livejournal.com]

I would be happy if you crossposted. Currently I try to read my LJ everyday, and sometimes twice. I look at DW, so far, every week or two. I haven't had time to broaden my circle at DW so I mostly do LJ.
For me, the advantage of having a DW presence would be the possibility of getting new members and new reccers. But, I've been happy with how it is on LJ too.

I recced a couple of times last year. I'd like to do some more in the future, but I'd want to do it in the old familar LJ layout where I have a very messy memories list.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

Thanks for your view of things! As a reader and occasional reccer, it's important we get perspectives like yours.

[audabee.livejournal.com]

I was in the "don't really care" group *until* I grappled with my paid LJ account over the weekend. I'll be deleting my account (if I ever hear back from support about payments).

Now, I'm all for moving to DW.

Thank you to all the contributors for all the work that's been done here. I appreciate it.

[sg-fignewton.livejournal.com]

That's the question, isn't it? How many of the "silent majority" will choose otherwise when they have to deal with LJ's current situation?

Thanks for chiming in. :)